REGIONAl commuters who work in London may have to make alternative transport arrangements if they use the Underground following news today of pending industrial action including strikes by London tube drivers on Thursday, 7 and Tuesday, 12 November.

Aslef said train operators and management grade staff would strike on 7 and 12 November, and those in the engineering section for 24 hours from 6pm on 1 November.

The Rail, Maritime and Transport union (RMT) has also announced industrial action by its members next month, between 1 and 8 November,

Transport for London (TfL) said the action by Aslef and the RMT was "disappointing", but it remained engaged with the unions.

A statement says: "It is disappointing that ASLEF and the RMT have announced industrial action following our recent discussions over pay, terms and conditions. We have held several constructive discussions with our trade unions and, after considering their feedback, have made a revised offer with an average uplift of 4.6%, which rewards our staff for their hard work and benefits the lowest-paid staff the most.

"We are engaging with our unions in good faith, having increased our offer since talks began, and have invited our unions to meet again next week. Our offer is fair for our people and affordable for London, and we urge our unions to continue working with us to support London and the wider economy."

Finn Brennan, Aslef's full-time organiser on London Underground, said: "We don't want to go on strike – we don't want to make travelling in and around the capital more difficult for passengers and we don't want to lose a day's pay – but we have been forced into this position because [London Underground] management won't sit down properly and negotiate with us."

The union said its Tube train driver members "overwhelmingly" backed taking industrial action, with 98.8% voting in favour on a turnout of 68%.

Aslef is seeking a pay agreement with London Underground, which has offered a 3.8% pay rise and a variable lump sum.

Mr Brennan said the offer would leave members on a lower salary than drivers on other TfL services, such as the Elizabeth line and Overground.

The RMT also announced that its members, including signalling and station staff, would walk out on different days between 1 and 8 November after rejecting a "wholly inadequate" pay offer.

The union said some progress was made in negotiations but maintained that the current proposal left a large number of staff excluded from collective bargaining.

The full list of walkouts is: 

• November 1-2: ASLEF engineering drivers will not book on between 1800 on November 1 and 1759 on November 2. An overtime ban will be in place from 0001 on November 1 to 2359 on November 8. 
• November 1-2: RMT maintenance and engineering vehicle operations staff will strike from 1800 on November 1 until 1759 on November 2, with no overtime until November 8 
• November 3-4: RMT track access controllers, control centre and power/control staff will strike for 24 hours from 1859 on November 3 
• November 4: RMT emergency response unit staff will strike for 24 hours from 0001 
• November 5: RMT fleet, engineering, stations and trains staff (except ERU and engineering vehicle operations and maintenance) will strike for 24 hours from 0001 
• November 6-8: RMT signallers and service controllers will strike for 24 hours from 0001 on November 6, with more action planned on the following two days 
• November 7: ASLEF train operators and instructor operators will not book on for duty between 0001 and 2359 
• November 12: ASLEF train operators and instructor operators will not book on for duty between 0001 and 2359